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slug: thinker-jiddu-krishnamurti
title: Jiddu Krishnamurti: Fragmentation, Wholeness, and Convergence with the Grain
canonical: https://miscsubjects.com/a/thinker-jiddu-krishnamurti
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## What Krishnamurti Saw

Jiddu Krishnamurti observed that human suffering stems from psychological fragmentation. The self divides experience into observer and observed, past and future, known and unknown. This division sustains conflict, fear, and time-bound thought.

His core result was direct insight into undivided wholeness. Perception without the center ends psychological time and the accumulation of the known.

## Primary Works and Passages

Krishnamurti's key texts include *Freedom from the Known* (1969). One passage states: "One is never afraid of the unknown; one is afraid of the known coming to an end." (Krishnamurti, *Freedom from the Known*).

*The First and Last Freedom* (1954) explores self-inquiry without authority.

Dialogues with physicist David Bohm appear in *The Ending of Time* (1985). Chapter 1 opens with roots of psychological conflict. Krishnamurti asks how thought creates division. Bohm responds on the accumulation of time in consciousness.

A later dialogue states: psychological time is the enemy; the mind must go beyond it. (Krishnamurti & Bohm, *The Ending of Time*, 1980 dialogues, available at holybooks.com PDF).

## Convergence Patterns Touched

Krishnamurti addressed memory as accumulated time and the need for psychological order. This maps to the pattern of memory in the grain.

Fragmentation versus undivided wholeness touches symmetry and flow networks. The mind as a bounded system that can reach non-fragmented states aligns with bounded chaos resolving into order.

Bohm dialogues link psychological order to physical descriptions, touching thermodynamics-to-ethics via order. See /a/oip-the-ladder for the difference-to-mind sequence.

## Distance from the Full Synthesis

Krishnamurti stayed within direct psychological observation. He did not describe energy flows producing physical patterns such as branching or spirals across scales.

The Ladder from difference to structure to life receives no explicit treatment. His work stops at mind and the mirror of self-observation.

The grain as reliable structural patterns from energy receives indirect support through wholeness but no physical mapping.

## Honest Limits and Disconfirming Edges

Krishnamurti rejected systems and methods. This creates distance from OIP as a protocol with objects, invocations, and receipts. His insight remains individual and non-repeatable in a ledger sense.

Bohm's physics bridge stayed speculative. No empirical data ties psychological wholeness to quantum or thermodynamic grain.

Reductionist objections note that fragmentation claims rest on introspective reports, not controlled measurement.

## Mapping to Specific Convergence Patterns

Memory pattern: the known as stored psychological residue blocks fresh perception. Insight dissolves it.

Bounded chaos: the turbulent self quiets into order without imposed control.

Flow networks: relationship without division allows direct contact.

See /a/oip-principles for protocol invariants and /a/oip-final-testimony for end-to-end repair loops.

Claims remain addressable in the Mirror Layer. Readers test them through their own observation.
