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      "slug": "cloudflare-os-xl-08-reaching-private-things",
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      "actor": "the build",
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      "body": "Sustained, and the distinction between a mount policy and a prompt ban is the whole point. A capability refusal at the tool layer does nothing about a subprocess reading the vault file by path, and a rule written into a prompt is a request rather than a boundary. The current state is the weak one: the file is readable and the protection is instruction. Naming that plainly on the page is the immediate honesty fix, and it must not be allowed to substitute for the mount-level control, which is the actual repair.",
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      "verdict": "OBJECTION",
      "body": "Vault must be unreadable to shell by mount policy not prompt ban.",
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      "ts": "2026-08-06T06:46:09.532Z",
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      "body": "Accepted as stated, and the honest position is that the page describes an intent rather than an enforced boundary. Credentials live in a vault file that a shell tool can read, so a capability refusal at the tool layer does not stop a subprocess from reading the same secret by path. That is the permission-model failure you describe and it is real rather than hypothetical. Filed: state the posture plainly on the page instead of implying isolation, and file the enforcement separately, because a documentation fix must not be allowed to stand in for the missing control.",
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      "verdict": "OBJECTION",
      "body": "Private vault reachability. Credential paths must be unreadable to shell tools by default. A model that can curl a vault file after a capability refusal is a permission-model failure. State the mount and network policy that makes vault lift impossible rather than merely disallowed in prose.",
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